JM press weight

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what weight range does everyone typically use for JM presses when they're done? i've just started incorporating this move (and its fantastic by the way!) into my routine and i'm still trying to get a feel for what weight i should probably be using. so i was just curious as to where everyone's working JM press weight is in relation to their regular working sets in a regular bench. thanks for any input!

[chancey]

This exercise is often misinterpreted. This has been talked about on this forum before (check back a page or so). The hardest way is the authentic Blakely method (keeping the elbows up). The very first time I did these I found myself dropping my elbows and pressing it up. That allowed for a heavier weight and you know it was still killer tricep work.

Anyway, I’ve been working my weight up on these (you want to take it easy due to the stress on the elbows) and recently did 155 for 8. Put in some perspective I bench close to 400 and used to do tricep extensions for reps with 145. I must say I love this exercise but it does take some conditioning. I found higher reps to be a little less abusive.

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after doing a little research and seeing a video of blakely giving instructions on how to perform them i decided to try his way and keep the elbows up and at 45 degrees as much as i can, and you are definietly correct, some conditioning for the tendons and ligaments thru the elbows will definitely be required! the stretch and activation though is phenominal and i can definitely feel that i may finally be hitting all three heads as they should be hit!

i'm glad to hear that an almost 400lb bencher is using roughly 155 though. im probably somewhere in the 320-350 range (i never max in the gym and dont compete so i dont really know) and the first time i did these i had to go as low as 115 for a few sets of 9. i didnt know whether i had painfully weak triceps or i was doing something wrong or what!

thanks for the input chancey!

[fatty]

There was some confusion on if I was doing a skullcrusher or a JM Press.

Wanting to be correct, i did alittle research as well and came up with this

There are a couple diffrences between the 2. I believe the JM press is an exceptional movement as is a properly done straight BB skullcrusher. On the skullcrusher the elbows are held high, you are trying to keep as close as you can to a 90 degree angle above your body on the JM's you are trying to hold a steady 45 degree angle along the side of your body. On a properly done JM press, you should not be able to place the BB on your throat due to the bicep and forearms mucles basically becoming pushed together. Of course on a BB skullcrusher, you will as the elbows are held high and the movement itself will not interfere with your body's natural motion.

I have now been doing both, JM definately take some practice. Start light and begin working up.

Also, your original questions is almost impossible to answer correctly. Chauncey tried and I believe his answe to be very accurate. I would think alot of your success on any exercise is HOW MOM AND DAD PUT YOU TOGETHER aka-----genetics. Yes, I think will and determination are key. As well as awareness to technique and nutrition. But to truelly gauge someone is will eventually come down to genetics, muscle insersions, prior injuries etc.

I , personally have large triceps and can bench a fair amount of weight pretty easily. I am a tricep bencher and I seem to impress most lifters with the capacity I am able to perform at dealing with my triceps. I love to train em, but like most, we enjoy doing what we're successfull at.

I would look at it as whatever your doing is never enough, try not to compare apples and oranges on specific weights. You may be stronger then me or weaker then me on one movement and visa versa on the next movement. If your using proper technique and pushing yourself your definately on track from added success.

Good luck and hope much success to you in your lifting future..

Fat Marty

[rickhussey]

I found this link on monster muscle. a Youtube video of JM giving info on how to perform the JM Press.

tinyurl.com/yu2vnb

[lysimacus]

I have seen a number of people using the JM press and commenting on how good it is. Thanks for posting the vid. I went right out and tried it. All I can say is an empty bar has no right to feel that heavy. I am defiantly adding them.

[chancey]

That’s great info straight from the source. I’ve been pretty much doing them right. Now I can concentrate on the rolling of the hands and thee punch out. I am going to bring my grip in some. I would love to get my hands on his tape - he was super intense! Nobody sells it anymore. At least I have that vid in my collection now.

[lance]

I had a hard time getting the JMs down as well. Fortunately a good friend at the gym helped me get the right movement and man do those things hit the triceps!! Good to hear all the feedback and input you guys have given.