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Post by rickhussey on Apr 10, 2007 7:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by abebesheir on Apr 10, 2007 8:05:41 GMT -5
I'm totally for the concept of infrequent, heavy lifting.
It's great for someone who doesn't have the time to lift 4-5 days a week.
It is a lot easier to recover from two hard workouts per week then several lighter sessions, in my opinion.
Still, you cannot go full bore every time you lift even if it is only twice a week. I am finding that every four weeks is a good time to cycle back down or to deload.
Mike Christian swears by infrequent training and he totals elite at 275 (1705) and will probably total elite in the 319 class as well...
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Post by 3speed on Apr 10, 2007 8:21:48 GMT -5
Interesting read. I have advocated doing deads no more frequently than every 10-14 days for years. I just wish I had his ability to stay within 2 workouts of a true max attempt.
Caution: He found what works for him - an experienced lifter. If you have less than 2 years of consistent lifting, you should be training more frequently and at considerably less than a constant 90%. You need that training to build your base muscle and develop tendon strength. Then, and only then, experiment to find what works for you and go crazy.
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Post by biglifter on Apr 10, 2007 9:05:20 GMT -5
I'm mostly in agreement, although I'm a big fan of the SLDL's. I still squat every week, but (as you will see in the training log) have changed deads to every other week. That move alone has helped significantly improved 1RM DL. I just cringe at some of the articles on 5+ days/wk, twice a day with DE mornings and ME evenings. Perpetual soreness 24/7 doesn't sound too fun. For me, 3x/wk strikes a perfect balance between recovery and training. One very unscientific gauge I use is how much I look forward to the next training day. If I can't wait to get my hands on the iron, I'm usually mentally and physically right on target. Anything less than that level of anticipation, it's time for a few days off.
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Post by chancey on Apr 10, 2007 19:14:50 GMT -5
That was an awesome point biglifter. I knight thee.
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Post by chancey on Apr 11, 2007 11:23:03 GMT -5
I wonder how that philosophy applies to a new lifter. He had the advantage of having built a foundation. I'm not sure that would be the best route for someone just starting. I totally agree about less training but that seemed a bit radical to me. Also, it seems as though the best deadlifters in the world dead once a week.
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Post by rickhussey on Apr 11, 2007 12:48:08 GMT -5
You are right. Sanchez had been lifting for years and had already built a foundation.
3speed's post says it well.
I also think that poundage has a lot to do with frequency. For example, in one of JMs articles he says that if you bench 300-400 you can bench every 3-4 days. If your loads are 400-450 try every 5 days. Over 500 he suggests once a week. Whether that's dead on or not I don't know. Top lifters like Chad Aichs and others spread out the westside cycle over 10 days instead of 7. The more weight you lift the more recovery time you may need. Everyone's different.
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Post by chancey on Apr 11, 2007 16:42:04 GMT -5
3speed always says it better. I did enjoy that article. Sanchez is quite the character. No BS all the way.
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Post by rickhussey on Apr 12, 2007 10:48:27 GMT -5
i especially like his comments about how drug use vs non drug use effected (his) recovery timeframes.
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