Training Weak Muscles First

[gabriel]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7jyCai1HxI louie recommends training your weaker muscles first before the stronger so for example training hamstrings before you squat.And keeping the workout time within a 1 hour window, 45 mintues to be exact from this video. His reasoning is test levels drop substanially after the 45 minute window if you're not on gear. What are your thoughts on this guys

[cejaay]

Cant really argue with Louie, he produces some real monsters. However, my opinion does differ. I always train the main movements first, give them all you've got, then train weak muscles after. My thoughts process: Fatigue the strong muscles first, that will limit the amount of assistance they can provide during the ancillary movements.

I think test levels dropping after 45 min is negligible and over emphasized, but if it does make a any difference at all, I would want to train my main movements before the drop. I think more importantly, IF intensity is there then performance will drop off significantly making one more prone to injury and picking up bad habits.

[gabriel]

I rewatched the video and i miss heard what lou said, he talks so Duckies fast its hard to keep his lectures organized lol

[osu122975]

Train what works for you. Give it a try and see what happens.

How does Louie figure out all these things? He experiments on a lot of lifters and athletes.

Figure it out. Try some things. What works for others may not work for you. That's the fun of it.

[dbunch]

You have program A and program B, both are proven programs with a long track record of successes and of course a few “failures”. Bob is thinking about trying program A but his training partner convinces him to try “B” instead. After three cycles on the program bob has made some modest gains at best but his training partner has made huge gain. Why is that? The popular answer is everyone is different and not everyone responds to the same type of training. This is true but not for the reasons people think. Biologically we are all basically the same and therefore or bodies will respond the same to the same type of conditioning. So again, why did Bob and his training partner have such different results? Basically, Bob’s training partner had a strong faith in the program so he worked it to its fullest while Bob had his doubts about it working so Bob did not push himself as hard and therefore did not make the gains his partner did.

My point is there are a lot of good programs ant train philosophies out there. You need the one that clicks for you mentally because if you have any doubt in the program it is not going to work.

LoL – in 12 step terms, “you have to work the program for the program to work” and if you don’t believe in the program – you’re not going to work it and it turn it will not work for you.

[George]

I try to have my full workout done at 45minutes...lol. I read Louie's articles, and just about everyone elses. But, I'm a raw lifter, not on steroids, work two jobs and lift solo without access to a lot of accessory stuff. My training is night and day to that gyms. When I show up to my gym, I am accompanied by three kids, not some of the worlds best. My supplement is a Gatorade, my spotter is careful planning. Due to time, I hit my primary lift and maybe an accessory or two, and have made consistent gains that way.

Among the best, with better supplements, and longer workouts, the advice holds merit. This is a case when the situation is so different I'm not sure it applies to me.