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Post by dbunch on Jul 13, 2013 13:03:41 GMT -5
After this meet I’m thinking about adding a pre and post workout supplement and BCAA’s to my regiment. Any input you have on the subject would be welcome. Just two restrictions, obviously I do want to take anything that will make me test dirty and I would really like to avoid caffeine as much as I can. Right now I only take a multi-vitamin.
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Post by Ryan on Jul 14, 2013 7:46:08 GMT -5
After this meet I’m thinking about adding a pre and post workout supplement and BCAA’s to my regiment. Any input you have on the subject would be welcome. Just two restrictions, obviously I do want to take anything that will make me test dirty and I would really like to avoid caffeine as much as I can. Right now I only take a multi-vitamin. My wife is a nutritionist and she has me taking a tbsp of BCAAs 30min prior to training and a recovery shake after training, then a straight protein meal within 30min-1hr before bed (either food or protein shake, but food is preferable). I also mix in a tsp of creatine with my post-training shake but that's personal preference. I can get you the brands of supplements I take if you want me to. Hope this helps.
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Post by 3speed on Jul 22, 2013 18:32:24 GMT -5
This is coming from somebody who takes no supplements, so standard disclaimers apply. You mileage may vary, remember to rotate, etc.
Your intake should come from food - not supps. With the amount of time you spend training, you owe it to yourself to manage your diet as well. If you spend even a minimal amount of time planning your diet, you shouldn't need supps. Fish oil and creatine are the only things I would even consider. There is even controversy surrounding fish oil.
I only train twice a week so the following is fairly easy for me to manage. I make sure I eat a dinner of good carbs the night before I train and I always have plenty of energy to get through a session (my sessions can be brutal). As far as post workout goes, several recent studies have shown that nutrient timing is a myth. As long as you are getting the nutrients you need, it doesn't matter when you consume them. The post workout nutrient window is a hoax perpetuated by the supplement industry.
Now, having typed all of that, I will type this. Whatever the supplement, if it works for you, it works. Even if it is just the placebo effect.
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Post by George on Aug 20, 2013 13:45:25 GMT -5
I've been noticing those things in research too Woody. In fact, I've seen on a few occassions were the "supplement" or nutrient timing can be as expanded as long as 24-48hrs. Timing does help ensure though, but that could mean regular meals and not pre/post.
In fact, if your not looking for a stimulant (which all seem to have a caffiene mix since DMA has been taken out of many things like Jackd 3d and C-4, etc.) pre-workout, then water is probably about it!. I also like creatine, and a lot of pre-workout stims have infused newer types of creatine but also do so with the new caffiene hydrous mixes and sugar. You might find a good creatine mix that doesnt contain a stimulant and might have some other supps infused. I hate to say this, but we have a guy at our local GNC who is very knowledgable and asking a sales rep worth his salt might work. Sure he is a salesman, but he might be able to point you in the right direction and is familair with whats on the shelves. You could always get a recomendation, not buy and then research yourself, but someone in the field likely knows whats available.
I champion protein powder simply because of its convenience post workout or anywhere else. Plus, since I eat on the run a lot, its nice to know I had one good shot of protien, timing issues aside, before I derail the rest of the day eating whats convenient, etc. But protein powders, like everything else, have "advanced" to the point its hard to keep up with the language. Like Woody said, even creatine and other things are going to occur in real food. To me, a protein powder that is promising 25 grams a scoop will work as good as the other brand costing three times as much promising 25grams but adding 100% RDA in BCAAs, aminos and the other works plus "quicker absorption". If meal timing is being refuted...quicker absorption is obviously not a factor. I look at tubs of protein that cost between 80-110$ and shake my head.
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