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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2009 13:41:29 GMT -5
Basically a nice long in between work out program. A little complicated too. Mine is very simple. Not the lifting part though
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2009 20:00:46 GMT -5
I read a little more in depth. I definitely will incorporate some of it when I'm between cycles. Good thread. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by jp on Mar 16, 2009 22:03:17 GMT -5
Total of 4 weeks. Reminder. He never lifted correctly before. I changed his form and his attitude. That was on a person to person training. Now I want to try it over the written word. If it works. I'll tell everybody about it.(except JP, he doesn't believe any thing I say any way) Until then. My research stays with me.[/quote]
LOL!!
You're killin' me dude.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2009 22:59:33 GMT -5
\] LOL!! You're killin' me dude..... [/quote] Just like on the platform!! Now thats funny. Ain't it!! Just imagine. YOU! Trying to compete with me!!! Not likely.
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Post by jp on Mar 17, 2009 9:12:25 GMT -5
\] LOL!! You're killin' me dude..... Just like on the platform!! Now thats funny. Ain't it!! Just imagine. YOU! Trying to compete with me!!! Not likely. [/quote] Not bloody likely at all sir....considering I'm a 100 lbs lighter than you are....unless you want to cheat of course....=)....but then again when you pull a triple bodyweight deadlift like I did....then we can talk powerlifting..... Cheers, John
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2009 11:10:55 GMT -5
\] LOL!! You're killin' me dude..... Just like on the platform!! Now thats funny. Ain't it!! Just imagine. YOU! Trying to compete with me!!! Not likely. Not bloody likely at all sir....considering I'm a 100 lbs lighter than you are....unless you want to cheat of course....=)....but then again when you pull a triple bodyweight deadlift like I did....then we can talk powerlifting..... Cheers, John[/quote] So you you compete at 114 class Pulling three times your weight. Hmm lets see. At 114 lb class 40-44 Donna McBurney pulled 341 World Record and National M. Shine open 114 class pulled 340 World Record and National These are great lifts. But they have been done repeatedly. Even a Women. I just find Donna's pull mind boggling. Still to the subject. You have done what others have done. How many 48 year olds work out with 2.29 there own weight for sets of three? How many 48 year olds do 2.47 there own weight for sets of 3 on 3 boards then 2.36 2 boards then 2.47 1 board? All in one work out. Please list there names. I want to know if I really do have any competition. Remember your statement. As we get older we cant get stronger unless we were weak in the first place. Question. What is the name of your work out thread? I cant find it. I just want to read it. NEVER to bad mouth it. I feel that area is sacred and full of hard work. According to World and National Records with the initials J.P. Both 165 class J.Polak 40-44 525=3.18 J.Pierece 12-13 365=2.21 So. You must be John Polak. No wonder you feel we cant get stronger as we age. You have hit your limits, so you feel others must too. To bad your thoughts are focused to what you can't accomplish, instead of teaching your mind to go beyond its accomplishments. If you limit your goals you will limit your accomplishments. P.S. If you are 40-44. Please! loose the Dude. Please Explain how I could cheat? I weigh what I weigh. Look at the records. 45-49 198. Illinois State and World. 45-49 Illinois State, National. National that blows the world away.
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Post by jp on Mar 17, 2009 20:59:43 GMT -5
LOL!!
Actually, I weigh about 175 and competed in the 181's....never bench only meets. One deadlift only meet, a few push/pull meets, but mostly a lot (a lot) of FULL power meets.
I concede, LOL!!! I'll be 48 soon, and have NEVER been adept at bench pressing.....I consider myself a really good dead lifter, and an OK squatter, but a horrible, horrible bench presser....I just don't have the structure for it. No matter what I do....it rarely increases....this after training 30+ years. Its gone up a bit, but it has peaked out and truth be told, I've never gotten more than 265....with a bench shirt....there's honesty for you. Doesn't matter to me though anymore, because I haven't competed in a few years....mainly due to lack of time and interest. But, I still squat and bench press. Gave up heavy deadlifting altogether.
And, truly, in my experience, my bench has gone way down, NEVER up as I aged. I've never set a "limit" to what I can or can't do, but I'm am realistic in realizing that there are times when one has "peaked". My point was, and I actually agree with you, in that, I never set limits for myself, just realistic attainable goals. Sometimes those goals were met easily, sometimes there was a struggle to get to it and other times - like with the bench press - that lift, for me, has not increased in 15 years. I thought I was training wrong, but after training on many, many variations of routines/programs and following advice from others, I just don't respond well to the lift.
It is entirely possible, in my opinion, that a lift may not be suited to a lifter based on body structure. Ever see a really good deadlifter?? They are built like me, long arms and legs, short torso. Great squatters are not built like me. Great benchers have huge shoulder structures....I don't have that. Otherwise, everyone who powerlifted would be benching, squatting and deadlifting phenomenal weights, rights??
People have their strong points....yours is clearly the bench....and kudos to you!! I actually respect the fact that you're able to push up the type of weights you're able to push up. It is truly impressive....and I would never take that away from anyone. =)
On the other hand, at full power meets, I've seen plenty of bench pressers who couldn't deadlift near what they were benching. When asked about this, they usually said the same thing about their dead lift that I said about the bench press and that was, no matter what they did the lift didn't increase and as they got older they noticed a decline in the rate in which the lift progressed. Make sense?? So maybe there is something to the age factor....I think so, and I'm certainly no expert, but I am an experienced lifter....=)
I attribute that to many, many factors....crappy, rotating shifts, and an inability to properly recover, mostly due to crappy genetics. I've never been able to train more than three days a week and make any gains. Its just the nature of the beast......I got what I got and can only work with that. I deal with it.
I do take the requisite supplements (protein mostly) and try to eat as clean as possible, but am by no means perfect.....due to the shift work....you eat what ever you can find, or live out of a lunch pail (and that gets old real quick)......
Bench hard my friend!! I am actually a fan!!! LOL!!
Oh....and I don't keep a log here....never have.
Cheers,
John
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Post by jp on Mar 17, 2009 21:05:05 GMT -5
OK....blackstone...one other thing I forgot.....
So....what kind of a bench pressing routine, would you suggest, for a nearly 48 year powerlifter, with aging, jacked up shoulders, poor recovery and an unsuitable body structure for benching???LOL!!
I'm just curious for tips?? Clearly, you're doing something right.....advice??
Cheers,
John
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