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Post by GustonPower on Mar 10, 2009 11:05:54 GMT -5
I had another PR on the bench this past Sunday, 310lbs.
The question I have is this:
What are some routines that some of you are usuing to increase your bench, 1RM?
Right now I'm kind of lost as to what to use and go about it.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thank you and keep slammin' the steel, baby!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 11:37:13 GMT -5
What is your age and weight? How far out till your next competition? I just gave a work out routine to guy at my gym.
Age 44 BW 225. Bench 350.
He has recently finished the 4 week program.
Age 44 BW 215 Bench 405
A 1.55 to a 1.88 4 weeks
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Post by DJ on Mar 10, 2009 12:35:52 GMT -5
I would be real curious to see what this program is. How long did it take him to add 55# to his max?
That is a very aggressive increase at that age and bodyweight.
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Post by GustonPower on Mar 10, 2009 14:31:15 GMT -5
What is your age and weight? How far out till your next competition? I just gave a work out routine to guy at my gym. Age 44 BW 225. Bench 350. He has recently finished the 4 week program. Age 44 BW 215 Bench 405 A 1.55 to a 1.88 4 weeks ! am 42 yo and 225lbs. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 15:53:06 GMT -5
If your willing. Along with out fearing pain. I can set you up through your PM, a cycled work out that will crush you and build you better, faster and stronger than ever. DO NOT let anybody tell you, after 40 you can't get stronger. One promise I need from you. You will go through with the work out to the letter. Not one variation. Ever. On ANY DAY.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2009 17:16:56 GMT -5
I would be real curious to see what this program is. How long did it take him to add 55# to his max? That is a very aggressive increase at that age and bodyweight. Total of 4 weeks. Reminder. He never lifted correctly before. I changed his form and his attitude. That was on a person to person training. Now I want to try it over the written word. If it works. I'll tell everybody about it.(except JP, he doesn't believe any thing I say any way) Until then. My research stays with me. |
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Post by GustonPower on Mar 11, 2009 5:47:42 GMT -5
Okay, let's see what you got and I'll give it a go. Does it include biceps, legs and the like?
Do you lift everyday? I will not be able to lift on Wednesdays at all, until later in April.
I am stronger now at 42 than I have ever been, in case you're curious.
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Post by chancey on Mar 11, 2009 7:55:32 GMT -5
This will be interesting. It sure seems like Bill has found the Holy Grail of benching.
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Post by DJ on Mar 11, 2009 8:49:31 GMT -5
I would be very interested to see this program too but as a couple of things come to mind.
1. the individual that gained 55# on his bench had to have been a very new lifter that really hadn't reached their max., as there is no way you will add that to an experienced, drug-free, raw lifter in 4 weeks.
2. what are the results in the next 4 weeks and so on?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 10:15:46 GMT -5
I'd be interested as well. Best of luck on a written program Bill. I look forward to seeing it if you can get it nailed down the way you want.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 14:41:05 GMT -5
I would be real curious to see what this program is. How long did it take him to add 55# to his max? That is a very aggressive increase at that age and bodyweight. I will only give this work out program to those with a VERY I can attitude. If there is doubt about it working. It wont. A defeatist attitude will only bring defeat. It took 4 weeks. Look at my logs. You will see me go from a max 455 to 510 Both full competition pauses. ( The 455 was called by Paul Bossi) 4 weeks. Yes it is possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 14:46:04 GMT -5
Does it include biceps, legs and the like? Do you lift everyday? I will not be able to lift on Wednesdays at all, until later in April. . Yes it includes every muscle group. Target lifting. If you can't lift 5 days in a ROW it wont work. Can you work out Thursday through Monday? If not. Let's wait until April. 1 month away. Then we can start you. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 14:48:23 GMT -5
This will be interesting. It sure seems like Bill has found the Holy Grail of benching. Chancy, Holy Grail? Maybe. But as is in the Bible. ONLY for the believers. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 14:56:44 GMT -5
quote author=admin board=masters thread=2099 post=32031 time=1236779371]I would be very interested to see this program too but as a couple of things come to mind.
1. the individual that gained 55# on his bench had to have been a very new lifter that really hadn't reached their max., as there is no way you will add that to an experienced, drug-free, raw lifter in 4 weeks.
Who has reached there MAX? If you have, why bother trying? Why not just condition train? This way its not to hard and you stay at your max. He was not a truly trained bench presser until I fixed him. Drug free and Raw is the only way I go.
2. what are the results in the next 4 weeks and so on?[/quote]
As with any program, the strength level flattens out. But you don't loose any thing. After some time of other routines. He may decide to try my routine again. I have already promised he would not gain 50lbs. Maybe 20 or 30.
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Post by DJ on Mar 11, 2009 14:57:17 GMT -5
Bill,
Ok, I went and read through your training log. Humor me some more. Are you telling me, that with your workout, a guy that say does a 350# lift on his third attempt in a pl meet(and he had to work to get it) is going to add 55# to his bench in the next 4 weeks? Assuming he takes off a week or so to recover.
Please clarify, because if that is what you are saying, that would equate to some large increases over a years time. Not possible without an "aid". I don't care how bad you want it or how positive you are. I am just trying to make sure I understand correctly what you are saying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 15:19:12 GMT -5
Bill, OK, I went and read through your training log. Humor me some more. Are you telling me, that with your workout, a guy that says does a 350# lift on his third attempt in a pl meet(and he had to work to get it) is going to add 55# to his bench in the next 4 weeks? Assuming he takes off a week or so to recover. Please clarify, because if that is what you are saying, that would equate to some large increases over a years time. Not possible without an "aid". I don't care how bad you want it or how positive you are. I am just trying to make sure I understand correctly what you are saying. If you find my logs humorous. Most likely because of disbelief. Why bother reading any of my post? If you say it cant be done. YOU can't. All I ever do is try to make 100% RAW a better and stronger Federation. I post for others benefits. Not mine. Would it be beneficial to anybody if I was untruthful? Plus. April 11th is when the metal meets the meat! So if the numbers are not there. Won't I look the fool! I believe in November is the World bench meet. Lets see. I'll be attempting 550 and Paul will be the head judge. Oh wait. Thats impossible. That would be a 95lb gain in only 14 months. According to some. That would be a 4 year jump. Maybe then the disbelievers will realize I wasn't joking. Then it will be to late. So after all. Maybe me offering my work out plan was a bad idea. As for needing aid. The only aid I condone is a lift off. No drugs what so ever. EVER. In that fact. To make sure about November worlds. I was going to pay 100% RAW for the testing. Before and after. I don't want any junk like last time. |
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Post by DJ on Mar 11, 2009 15:40:14 GMT -5
Ok Bill, calm down. I wasn't calling your training log humorous, I was just using a cliche and speaking in general, not about your training.
You are right, I will wait and see and go from there. Good luck at your meets.
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Post by deo01 on Mar 11, 2009 16:42:12 GMT -5
Bill,
I lift Monday thru Friday and I'm very interested and very motivated. Sign me up Big Guy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 21:13:44 GMT -5
Ok Bill, calm down. I wasn't calling your training log humorous, I was just using a cliche and speaking in general, not about your training. You are right, I will wait and see and go from there. Good luck at your meets. Not very excited here. Words do not give expressions. Thats why we seem to get hooked up in silliness. No big deal. By the way. Has anybody noticed the advertisers? Blast your bench. Add 51 pounds to your bench in 3 weeks! Bench master or some thing to that effect. Add 50 lbs in 7 weeks!! So is it believed a corporation can come up with a method and not a lifter? A lifter that has proven himself more than once. One that has NO competition in the Masters 220 class. As of the last 2 years. None in heavy weight category.Masters division. After all. I'm 48 and planning on setting the all time OPEN,RAW/TESTED 220 class. Then the 242 weight Class. I'm told. Hold two records in two weight classes. Make everybody chase you!!!!!  Thy will be done. Glory goes to him that sits on the throne of ever loving peace. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 21:14:38 GMT -5
Bill, I lift Monday thru Friday and I'm very interested and very motivated. Sign me up Big Guy. Look at your P.M. |
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Post by ronvt on Mar 12, 2009 6:09:22 GMT -5
This is definately an interesting thread. As far as the advertisements you mentioned I always dismissed them as marketing gimicks. But as someone who has followed the overall rankings and keeps the masters rankings I know that your bench has gone through the roof. It's hard to deny the numbers if the proofs in the pudding. I have always considered westside as the holy grail since my comp bench has increased from meet to meet. But chancey maybe right. I am competing this sunday in 220 and am hoping to beat my last meet of 402. I know we have had our disagreements in the past but I too, would be eager to try your routine and commit to the 5 days a week.
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Post by chancey on Mar 12, 2009 8:12:12 GMT -5
i often wonder, even as an experienced bencher, what an elite bencher could do with me on form. Just getting that right can be an incredible boost to the max. It be nice to spend a day with you Bill.
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Post by scottmitchell74 on Mar 12, 2009 9:39:28 GMT -5
I'm very, very curious about all of this. Is this for bench-only guys? What about full meet guys? Will we overtrain on this program? I can lift 5 days in a row, so that obstacle is gone. I hope you guys keep us all updated. This site remains a very fascinating place. I believe!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2009 21:42:55 GMT -5
i often wonder, even as an experienced bencher, what an elite bencher could do with me on form. Just getting that right can be an incredible boost to the max. It be nice to spend a day with you Bill. PM me with a step by step movement for your set up in the bench. Like: My hands are at the middle finger of the bar ring. About one inch inside my shoulders width. I'll be glad to go back and forth with you. In the fact. Who ever does this I will be glad to help you too. After all this is about all of us. Not just a select few. |
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Post by GustonPower on Mar 16, 2009 5:45:00 GMT -5
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