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Post by dopar66 on Dec 14, 2007 13:48:24 GMT -5
The 6mm Remington is a 257 Roberts necked down to .243". It was originally marketed as a varminter, so the cartridge never gained the following of other similar loads such as it's little brother the .243 or it's bigger brother the 25-06. Several years after its' introduction, Remington went to a slower barrel twist to accomodate lead more suitable for deer and other thin-skinned medium to larger game. Confirmed usages for the 6mm Remington have run the spectrum from varminting to deer and pronghorn, on up to 1000m competitions, elk, and some small bears. It's a little hotter than the .243, has about the same trajectory as the 25-06, and is gaining pockets of popularity in various parts of the US.
The 30/30 Winchester. For over a century, this has been a venerated, almost revered cartridge, gaining tremendous popularity as a brush gun almost without equal. Somewhat limited in long-range use by low ballistic coefficients, the round nose causing rapid loss of velocity, inside 150 yards the 30/30 is still the cartridge of choice among many whitetail hunters. This popular little gun has been used on everything between beavers and brown bears.
I plan on spending a LOT of time with these two companions over the next coupla weeks. As soon as I check the logs I'm shutting down the computer until January 3rd.
To ALL:
Have a WONDERFUL and BLESSED Christmas and New Years.
God Bless!
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Post by George on Dec 14, 2007 16:40:27 GMT -5
Good luck and Merry Christmas.
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Post by 3speed on Dec 14, 2007 17:43:06 GMT -5
Have fun my friend. I'm gonna test drive a BFR Long cylinder .45/70 next week.
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Post by lysimacus on Dec 17, 2007 18:24:44 GMT -5
What a great way to spend two weeks. Good hunting and Merry Christmas.
My wife liked my Winchester .30-30 so much that I got her a Model 94 Trapper in .44 mag. Christmas before last. She loves that rifle.
3Speed, let us know how you like the .45-70. It has been a rifle I've wanted for ages.
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Post by thewicked on Dec 20, 2007 13:24:04 GMT -5
haha 22-250 and the 7mm-08 fast as Hades..and a 7mm-08 will send a moly coated bullet from one end and out the other of an animal on the north american continent ! best brush gun to date.. the 458x2 wildcat cartidge in a 4x scout setup! It's a boar killer for sure!  GOOD LUCK BUDDY! YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE SOME SPICY SAUSAGE WHEN YOU COME BACK RIGHT? COURSE GROUND...not fine! HAHA pretty please?!! |
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Post by 3speed on Dec 20, 2007 18:27:48 GMT -5
lysimacus,
The BFR I'm looking at is a 5 shot revolver with a 10" barrell. It fires a .45/70 rifle round.
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Post by lysimacus on Dec 21, 2007 21:02:41 GMT -5
Goog googly moogly. A 45-70 in a revolver?
Looking forward to a report. I should be able to hear it in VA when you send a round down range in NC.
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Post by 3speed on Dec 23, 2007 6:32:12 GMT -5
lysimacus,
The .45/70 came in yesterday and I took it on the range. I also took along my Super RedHawk .44 Magnum for comparison. Both weapons are very similar in size and weight. The trigger pull on the 45/70 is 4.5lbs and my 44 is 4lbs. The 45/70 has slightly more recoil than my 44. At 50' - standing, single hand - I put 5 rounds inside the 9 ring with my 44 and put 5 rounds inside the 7 ring with the 45/70. ( I am more comfortable with my 44. I've had it for many years.)
Conclusion: Incredible handgun. The asking price for the 45/70 is just over $1000. Considering the negligible difference between the 2 weapons and the fact that I can buy 50 rounds for my .44 Magnum for about the same price as 20 rounds for the .45/70, I think I will pass on the 45/70. I was a fun day, though.
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Post by lysimacus on Dec 25, 2007 13:23:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the review. I can full understand the cost-reward assessment. That is why I had the trigger work done on my 1911. Matching it with my Ruger Mark II made practicing cost infinitely more manageable. Still torching off that .45-70 had to be a blast.  |
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Post by toolpod on Dec 26, 2007 18:54:55 GMT -5
HOLY SMOKES! A .45/70 handgun!
Really only a little more recoil than a .44 mag??? I would have thought substantially more...It's my understanding that .45/70, especially in custom loads is good enough for anything in North America to include Kodiak Bear, where .44 mag is considered a little light for the "big stuff"...I read somewhere that some hot .45/70 loads are even good for Cape Buffalo.
Savage makes a nice lever action short barrel .45/70 guide gun that's a good brush gun.
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Post by dopar66 on Jan 8, 2008 8:56:35 GMT -5
Finished (coarse) grinding the sausage last night at 10:45. Had a little nibble this morning. :')
That 7mm-08 is a FINE cartridge. That and the 338 Federal are both excellent examples of necking up or necking down to make a sensible, efficient cartridge. The '08 is definitely one versatile cartridge, every bit as much as the 270.
3Speed, I'm glad to hear that review. I'm looking at the BFR3030 (a 30-30 revolver). The weapon is fine quality, but I'm anxious to see what the cartridge will be like in a handgun....
God Bless.
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