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Post by jp on Jan 11, 2008 2:52:45 GMT -5
I believe you may be on to something, as I think I spoke a bit to soon; I felt good on the day of the workout, but was draggy for the next 72 hours. Said differently, it is intense. I'm scheduled for w/o #2 on Sat or Sun-- I'll be watching my recovery rate with interest... It does hammer you doesn't it?? A buddy of mine is a year older than me (47) and benches three times a week. He only does 3 or 4 sets and isn't scientific about it at all. He just throws some weight on there and presses it as many times as possible....bizarre, but it works for him. I've seen him press 402 in a BP contest with a little more than 6 weeks training. He's just one of those bench monsters who can do just about anything and it'll work.
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Post by fidler on Jan 11, 2008 11:23:00 GMT -5
I believe you may be on to something, as I think I spoke a bit to soon; I felt good on the day of the workout, but was draggy for the next 72 hours. Said differently, it is intense. I'm scheduled for w/o #2 on Sat or Sun-- I'll be watching my recovery rate with interest... Did you start the Buckeye based on an actual max, or did you guestimate a starting weight? I'm anticipating starting the Buckeye after I heal up from a back injury and I was wondering how you determined a starting point. Bill
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Post by jp on Jan 11, 2008 14:37:39 GMT -5
Did you start the Buckeye based on an actual max, or did you guestimate a starting weight? I'm anticipating starting the Buckeye after I heal up from a back injury and I was wondering how you determined a starting point. Bill[/quote]
Hi Bill,
I based mine on an actual max effort and backed off 10 pounds just so I could have some "play" in the routine......you know, just in case the max was a fluke for the day or for some reason wasn't as clean as a contest max.
JP
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Post by IronMan on Jan 12, 2008 10:25:49 GMT -5
I took a point well below my max, 45 pounds exactly, chiefly because I was coming off off a period of extended heavy cardio that had dropped my weight from 208 to 188. Though I hadn't quit PL lifting during the period, I had done so at lighter weights and higher reps; so I wanted to give everything a chance to make the transition back to more intense lifting without injury.
I still think the routine is worth serious investigation, my initial underestimation of its intensity (for a Master lifter) notwithstanding.
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Post by jp on Jan 13, 2008 23:43:32 GMT -5
I think I'm just going to stick with a simple 4 sets of 4 routine with 80% for now. So far I've had no ill effects. If I feel burnt out, I'll just back off.
JP
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Post by johnc on Feb 4, 2008 14:39:14 GMT -5
This is just what I was looking for. A new plan that is simple in the way it is laid out. I have had very sporadic training over the last 8 weeks due to a death in the family, coaching son'd wrestling and a busy work season.... now back on track, but looking for the right routine.
I start the Buckeye tonight...
Guess it's good I'm old enough to check in the Master's area ;D
Thanks,
John
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Post by johnc on Feb 6, 2008 15:55:27 GMT -5
Ok, so far have done one bench and one squat workout with this program. So far so good. It has a high level of intensity to it, I think, and to echo some comments above, I am a bit more wiped out. I am going to stick to just cardio tonight I think, and save DL for tomorrow, just for some rest time. I think the best part of it for me so far is the structure it gives to my workouts. No trying to figure out what's next, and the progression makes sense to me. It does seem, so far, that the triples are harder than the singles... so I amhoping that means, I am actually stronger than I thought John
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Post by johnc on Feb 12, 2008 9:24:53 GMT -5
Beginning my second week on the buckeye. I have found that the squat day wipes me out, but the rest is working well.
Last night was my second bench workout on this program. Last night I was able to move up a bracket from the first bench day, and that one went well.
I will hit squats either this evening or tomorrow. trying to get my wife to come in and spot me for squats (she is VERY capable in this) Last week i found I needed at least a day between squats and deads, so deads will be either Thursday or Friday.
My main goal in taking on this program was to increase my bench and after the second bench day, I feel like it will at least move my bench upward, while before I was stagnated a bit.
Thanks again for posting it.
John
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Post by toolpod on Feb 12, 2008 14:55:05 GMT -5
I got 25lbs out of the Buckeye in 9 weeks. After that my CNS was shot and i needed a break. I think next time I will cycle it for 6 weeks followed by 6 weeks of reps love.
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Post by molanator on Mar 7, 2008 8:39:49 GMT -5
I know coach Bossi likes to get the heavy sets out of the way first then work down. Has anyone tried the Buckeye routine in reverse. If you do light warm-up, hit the last set of four , then 1 rep and go backward it would use his principle with the Buckeye poundage. Just thinking out loud. God's Peace. Molanator
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Post by johnc on Mar 7, 2008 17:53:03 GMT -5
Well.... 4 - 5 weeks on the buckeye... and now I am resting up for the USAPL Battle of the Border next Saturday in Charlotte. This is what I think, although the real story will be at the meet after I rest, I think. My body is smoked. I noticed that about 1 -2 weeks ago my strength seemed to be leveling off a bit, maybe dropping some. Tried to fight through it. then I noticed other things like legs being tired going up steps, etc... and think I might be a bit overtrained. If you look at the Buckeye program, the thought is that if you can successfully complete a weight "bracket" you will be able to hit the top number of the bracket at a meet. So here are my top brackets from this training cycle: Squat - 380 Bench - 280 Deadlift - 420 Bodyweight at 185 now and will lift at 181. After next weekend, I will post up my results. I will be happy if I get close to these weights. My PR's in a meet (USAPL) from last August were Squat - 325 Bench - 237 Deadlift - 397 So I feel like anything close to the Buckeye "prediction" would be a good day for me I will let you all know.
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Post by lct99 on Mar 7, 2008 18:55:20 GMT -5
I had never heard of the Buckeye Routine until I got on this site recently. It piqued my interest, so I decided to give it a try.
I started the last week of January and did the reps corresponding to the 345 bracket. I decided to do all paused reps. I was successful on all the lifts so the follwing week I went up to the poundages for the 350 bracket, again pausing on each rep. I was again good on all lifts and moved up to the 355 bracket the next week, pausing on each rep.
Moved up to the 360 bracket the following week, again pausing each rep. I got all lifts except for needing a tap on the second of the 2 reps at 325, and missing on the single at 335. I had noticed my shoulders were worn out, likely from doing all paused reps. The following week I nailed all reps, paused. Because my shoulders were feeling so worn out, I decided to mix paused and touch&gos and go up to the 370 bracket. I did 4+4 at 250, 3+3 at 275, and 2+2 at 300. I got 2 paused reps at 320, but could not get the last t&g rep. I did 2 t&g's at 330, and got a 345 paused rep. I finished up with 4 paused reps at 300.
This week I will try to go all paused reps. As soon as I get the entire 370 bracket paused, I am going to move up to 380, all t&g's and each week move toward more paused reps until I get the entire bracket paused.
I was wondering if any of you have done the Buckeye routine using all paused reps? I assumed when I started it that the routine called for touch&go's, but maybe it is supposed to be paused; I just don't know. (Bear with me, I'm new at this!) I have enjoyed the paused reps, but realized I will have to cycle a littlle because it was wearing me down.
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Post by 3speed on Mar 7, 2008 22:03:03 GMT -5
I always do paused reps with the buckeye. It is a brutal routine though and I have to take a week off after 3 consecutive weeks of buckeye. If I try to push thru a 4th consecutive week, I am always weaker than I was on the 3rd week.
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Post by matthewcurbstomp on Mar 15, 2008 21:51:45 GMT -5
Hey everyone.
I'm a fairly newer powerlifter (19 yoa) and am pretty interested in this routine. I started up Bill Starr's 5x5 program a couple weeks ago but think this might be of better use for me. Would anyone be able to give me a quick sample lift selection (i can figure out reps) for a M, W, F program?
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Post by johnc on Mar 16, 2008 7:42:52 GMT -5
Well.... 4 - 5 weeks on the buckeye... and now I am resting up for the USAPL Battle of the Border next Saturday in Charlotte. This is what I think, although the real story will be at the meet after I rest, I think. My body is smoked. I noticed that about 1 -2 weeks ago my strength seemed to be leveling off a bit, maybe dropping some. Tried to fight through it. then I noticed other things like legs being tired going up steps, etc... and think I might be a bit overtrained. If you look at the Buckeye program, the thought is that if you can successfully complete a weight "bracket" you will be able to hit the top number of the bracket at a meet. So here are my top brackets from this training cycle: Squat - 380 Bench - 280 Deadlift - 420 Bodyweight at 185 now and will lift at 181. After next weekend, I will post up my results. I will be happy if I get close to these weights. My PR's in a meet (USAPL) from last August were Squat - 325 Bench - 237 Deadlift - 397 So I feel like anything close to the Buckeye "prediction" would be a good day for me I will let you all know. OK, competed yesterday. Meet went well. I am still struggling on Bench, but here are my results. Squat - 353 (PR) - missed 363 on last attempt Bench - 243 (PR) - missed 252 on 2d and last attempt Deadlift - 419 (PR) - hit all 3.... 391, 407, 419. So I improved in all three lifts. I did not hit the Buckeye bracket prediction in any lift. I thought, based on my gym workouts that the 363 squat and the 252 bench were well withiin my abilities, but it was not to be. Some of this might be my ability to perform at the meet setting. Nervousness, distractions or whatever. I still had a good meet overall. :)This is my first Total over 1000 with a 1014. "meet" PR's in all three lifts :)First time my son got to watch me in competition Next up for me is to go back to the gym.... go back to some more conventional weight training for a bit and then pick out my next meet. Will I do the Buckeye again? Yes, for 2 or 3 week periods only, rotating with other training programs and some rest. Sorry for the long post. John
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Post by 3speed on Mar 16, 2008 8:55:39 GMT -5
Congratulations John!!
PRs and hitting a grand are great moments. The fact that your son was there is priceless.
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