How far would you go for money?

[fatty]

IMO only. I don't do it for the $$$. People may say "hey why not?, if you can make alittle money while lifting" my simple answer is alot of lifters take illegal anabolics. Personal choice.

The WPO awards good coin for the lifters, cool, not for everyone and not for me. But I don't bench 715 RAW either or 1000+ in a shirt.

Simply $$$ is not a motivating factor for me and I see the entry fees as worthy donations for the memories you get in exchange. To add the distraction of $$ into this organization would absolutely increase the likelyhood of people trying to get into the organization not playing on the same playing field.

Not to knock the thread, it is just one opinion. BTW I will travel anywhere in the United States to compete once I am healthy. I will happily pay the entry fees. Heck, who knows maybe someday Paul will allow me to start a RAW chapter in my beloved state of Wyoming..

Now if the winner got a free deer or turkey hunt.....maybe

Fatty

[3speed]

For me personally, money - or lack of it - would not be a determining factor in where/when I compete. I compete in meets that are convenient and that I believe will be well run.

Unfortunately, Fatty, money or not, there will always be those who choose to try and defeat the system (drugs). I have heard too many comments at meets about cycling to be under any delusions concerning a drug free environment. We are drug tested. That is the best that you can do without the tremendous cost of out of competition no-notice testing.

This is just my personal position. This is a very interesting topic and I am sure there are those who would jump at the chance to compete for money. I would love to hear their opinions here also. Don't be shy people.

[3speed]

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[sasquatch]

I am not to the point where I would win cash from my lifting but I think it is something that should happen, the untested multiply has it, Now I think the Raw drug free should have it It is only right these people need to have something like this. Why should there be money in the untested with double ply gear and nothing for raw drug free, I have many good ideas but I do not think I could get the backing or support because this would have to be unsanctioned.

I think %100 Raw PL federation came to the agreement not to give cash prizes, that is fine, if they did the expense for drug testing would be through the roof. It is understandable for other reasons as well why they would not want to do this.

To answer the question how fare would I travel for a cash meet, well that would depened on how long I had to train, and how much cash was given out is it buuy formula or weight classes, Like I said in the beggining of my post I doubt I could win anything but I would travel 1-2 states away to support it.

[chancey]

Even if I was in the top percentile I don't see money as the motivating factor. Yes, it would be nice if it would cover some of your traveling expenses and so on but I believe once money enters the equation the likelihood of someone cheating increases. I am probably naïve to what goes on out there but I believe everyone in this fed to be on the straight and narrow. Cheating just doesn’t make sense.

[sasquatch]

That was the point I was talking about or trying to make I agree that the chances of someone trying to cheat increases/ and with the cost of testing everyone it would be very hard to do, and than some people know how to beat test and would sink to that low of coming to a drug free fed and lifting or a drug free event, I have no problom with guys who use just as long as they do not try to lift in drug free events.

I still think it would be nice for the top notch raw drug free lifters to have a chance to win cash.

[dopar66]

I'm very much with Fatty on this one. Not in it for the money, but if there was a nice hunt involved...... well........ :')

So far I've gone from NC to Vermont (beautiful state, yall should check it out) and to Florida when there was no money involved. I got what I was after both times. I met some GREAT guys, had a blast lifting, and hopefully someone other than me would leave the meet saying "He sure loves the Lord." That's about all I'm in it for.

By the way, I didn't vote. My choice wasn't up there. If it had read "money isn't the reason I lift" I'd have voted for that 'un.

God Bless!

[biglifter]

(I won't turn this into a rant, I promise). Had to cast my vote for "not to the end of the driveway". I take a lot of pride in the fact that the only carrot on the stick (excluding your solid 14K gold trophy ;D) is a placing, sense of accomplishment (we hope), and body that doesn't quite work right for a week or two afterwards. Point aside that money would bring in a least a few more of the unscrupulous types, I wonder if that sense of camaraderie, which I very much enjoy, within the weight class would remain. Let's face it, I won't be screaming nearly as loud for the guy who is about to send me home with $100 less than I should rightfully have . At best, he'll get a golf clap from me before that deadlift attempt that pushes him over the top. I suppose it boils down to where you are on the 'lift for myself' ------------> 'lift to win' continuum. The fact that RAW powerlifting is alive and kicking is well worth all money spent on travel, hotels, modestly priced fuel and post-meet steak dinner.

[joebear]

Gotta go with the majority on this one : $ is nice and all , but personally I compete against me- try to see if I can improve from year to year etc...

$ probably would bring in some unsavory characters who know how to beat the system or just can't play fair.

Human nature being what it is ...........................

I think Fatty hit it right, you throw in an elk hunt or a trip to Alaska .................................

Joe

[fatty]

Dopar66 & Joebear

That is what I do on my free time---hunt..

I go all over the country to hunt. Have killed several bull elk and 3 mule deer over 180" in Wyoming. Hunted Alaska 3x--2 black bears and 1 caribou. Let me know if ya get bored and want to see some pictures..

I apoligize to those not hunters but this another tight group, much like powerlifters..

Fat Marty

[toolpod]

I put down "over 200 mi" only because I've traveled over 200 miles for meets that don't have cash prizes...The prize doesn't motivate me...only my competition PR's does...if there was money involved, that would be a neat extra, but certainly nothing that would sway me either way.

[teen117titan]

i put 200
but itd just depend on who was running in (federation) and what kind of meet
id go if there wasnt a money prize
competition is the best!

[thewicked]

I'd say yes and no to money..yes because it helps cover costs of travel expenses,etc. but for most of us if we're going to show up anyway just because we love this sport so much... money does however tend to make people want to "push it" when it comes to integrity of competiton.

[George]

biglifter said:

(I won't turn this into a rant, I promise). Had to cast my vote for "not to the end of the driveway". I take a lot of pride in the fact that the only carrot on the stick (excluding your solid 14K gold trophy ;D) is a placing, sense of accomplishment (we hope), and body that doesn't quite work right for a week or two afterwards. Point aside that money would bring in a least a few more of the unscrupulous types, I wonder if that sense of camaraderie, which I very much enjoy, within the weight class would remain. Let's face it, I won't be screaming nearly as loud for the guy who is about to send me home with $100 less than I should rightfully have . At best, he'll get a golf clap from me before that deadlift attempt that pushes him over the top. I suppose it boils down to where you are on the 'lift for myself' ------------> 'lift to win' continuum. The fact that RAW powerlifting is alive and kicking is well worth all money spent on travel, hotels, modestly priced fuel and post-meet steak dinner.

That was an excellent point. I believe you are correct that the atmosphere would be tainted. Perhaps not right away, but as generations grow into this environment I would say this is very possible. This sport walks a fine line between recreational pursuit and competitive sport. Whereas the top guys would enjoy the cash clash, I feel the majority of guys doing this for fun would eventually feel some alienation. I would also assume the latter makes up the majority of guys who attend meets.

[johndolan]

I can't see a scenario in which it would be bad to win money.