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Post by jimray on Nov 28, 2005 10:33:53 GMT -5
I changed my mind and voted for knee wraps, for consistency with other feds. Then, it would be easier to get to a national raw championship vs. those other feds.
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Post by abebesheir on Dec 14, 2005 20:35:24 GMT -5
I agree with Bill... NO KNEE WRAPS!
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Post by liftitup700 on Dec 16, 2005 12:40:26 GMT -5
I agree that knee wraps should NOT be allowed. If knee wraps are allowed into a raw federation, then that just starts the ball rolling into the equipment court. I dont want to see that happen.
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Post by ironheadpl on Dec 21, 2005 7:31:50 GMT -5
the name is 100% Raw but the rules state that you can wear a belt. Not trying to start trouble but that's not 100% either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2006 18:16:55 GMT -5
Maybe when you train, The wraps bother me because they come loose. The supports stay in place. I don't think they should have a place in competition.
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Post by Michael Neal on Jan 8, 2006 23:08:02 GMT -5
No knee support, stand out as an alternative to other organizations, you can still join in a multi organization championship.
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Post by eaze8 on Jan 11, 2006 18:54:28 GMT -5
no belts, no knee wraps, no wrist wraps. that's how i train and so far injury free minus the occasional groin pull but there tend to be other factors influencing that one... ;D
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Post by marymayfield on Jan 25, 2006 10:26:57 GMT -5
Sorry but this is a two handed question. You can only vote for supporting the use of knee wraps. Were is the vote for: We should never have wraps or supportive gear?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2006 11:13:34 GMT -5
No knee wraps. That gets the ball rolling towards equipped lifting.
Knee wraps would make us The 85% RAW Powerlifting Federation.
Rhino Rob
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2006 22:17:36 GMT -5
Hey everyone. My first post.
I think knee wraps should be used, from a safety perspective. I don't think I would even consider a 500-600 squat without them, then again, I've never gone heavy without them.
If PL ever makes it into the Olymics, and I believe one day it will, it will mirror Olympic gear, Bench, Deadlift, a singlet, wrist wraps and knee wraps. They really dont add any weight onto the lifts to speak of, but help in joint stabilization. Really important when you hit 40yo;-) Pete
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Post by ironheadpl on Mar 10, 2006 15:09:36 GMT -5
singlet, wrist wraps and knee wraps. They really dont add any weight onto the lifts to speak of
I disagree here, knee wraps most certainly add weight to a squat.
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Post by Nick Minneti on Mar 28, 2006 12:40:58 GMT -5
Knee supports and wraps are lift enhancing equipment. They aren't used for safety -- they are used to augment the lifts. The belt is the only legitimate safety device in powerlifting.
The support offered by a belt doesn't make your numbers bigger, they make the numbers you can laready do safer. Without the belt, the bigger numbers cause back injuries. On the other hand, The knee wraps do little to stablize the knee. How is a device that allows one to exceed their unwrapped lift capacity even argued to be a safety device? Nobody wrapping their knees is doing less with the wraps -- that's why the pro-wrap lifters want it -- it's a short cut to the bigger numbers.
Just because other feds are scrapping integrity to claim a lift is "RAW" with knee wraps or sleeves, doesn't mean we should, too. That's why we lift here -- drug and equipment free -- for the integrety of lifting on a level playing field, where your god-given leverages and ability meet your work ethic and commitment to success, as compared to your peers. The "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" lifters, the technophiles who love being the first guy to exploit the latest gear their competitors might not even know about and "anything for a few pounds more" lifters need not apply.
If you can't lift the weight raw, you can't lift the weight!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2006 20:05:10 GMT -5
no knee wraps. keep it RAW baby.
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Post by lej405 on Aug 9, 2006 12:43:17 GMT -5
If you use wraps IT"S NOT raw. Hades I think you should take away the belt also and have it completely raw.
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Post by vic on Sept 13, 2006 18:01:41 GMT -5
No knee wraps for me ...YEEP BUDDE !!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2006 23:07:50 GMT -5
I agree with everyone that believe belted lifting is not RAW. Safety comes from being smart about the weight you lift. Every peice of equipment helps. I can squat 25 kg. and dead lift 15 kg more with a belt. I can squat 45 kg more with a belt and wraps. Vintage meet as in NASA with a belt, wraps, shorts and t-shirt are definately fun though not RAW.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2006 22:10:43 GMT -5
I use wraps on days I'm tired but still need to train. I use the wraps in case my being tired hurts my tecnique. I don't want any injuries. I usually squat RAW
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Post by daddieo on Apr 7, 2007 10:11:58 GMT -5
no knee wraps.It's just as bad as using briefs.
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Post by garybrown on Mar 2, 2008 23:51:48 GMT -5
I waited years for a truely raw federation. Now it's here. Let's please hang on to it. I agree with ease8 on this. I've been hurt worse with a belt than without. Nick said it well also.
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