Serious about Raw Lifting Fed in Canada

[adamprice88]

Hi There

My name is Adam Price and I currently train out of Pro Bodies in Calgary Alberta. Currently I compete in the GPC (aka Independent Powerlifting Association) and I am serious about spearheading a drive to create a 100% RAW affiliate in Canada. I have already sent an email to the President of 100% Raw and I plan to see this thing out to the very end. I realise there are some places in Canada where you are able to lift RAW, but despite all my searching, I have not been able to locate a Federation that is Internationally sanctioned.

My plan is to see if I can get the board members of GPC Canada to hold a co-event. Equipped lifting is here to stay, and I believe that it is silly to try and compete with them for members. I believe however that there are enough people out there interested in competing at a RAW event, while at the same time interested in watching an equipped event. One cannot deny the entertainment value of watching a 1000 pound squat, and I believe that both styles of lifting have their place in the world. The other advantage to holding an event with Raw and Equipped lifters is that the overall costs of holding two competitions are cut in half. By sharing one facility, more people can converge on one location and enjoy every aspect of competitive powerlifting all in one place.

I currently train with gear, because I have to, not because I want to. I could compete RAW, but there would never be any chance that I could be truly competitive against equipped lifters. The GPC 2008 Canadian Nationals are being held in Calgary in two weeks and I know of at least 5 of my friends who would have joined me in competing had it not been for the use of equipment. That's 5 additional entry fees that the event could have collected with a Raw Federation and I'm sure that every equipped lifter knows one or two people that would compete if gear were not a necessity.

I truly am serious about this. If you are a like minded individual and would like to help, please contact me at the address below.

[e-mail]

Thank you for your time. Happy lifting.

[adamprice88]

Well it looks like there is a Raw Fed in Canada. It's called the CDFPA. I'm told that they have a meet in August in Taber, Alberta but that is unconfirmed.

Here is the website, although it hasn't been updated in a while.
www.geocities.com/cdfpa/

and here is the main contact according to www.powerliftingwatch.com

[e-mail]

I'm still going to ask the board members of the GPC if they would be willing to host a co-event, but that won't be until 2009.

[3speed]

Good luck. Unequipped lifting is expanding at an incredible rate and 100% RAW is leading the way. There is no reason why we can't have a Canadian affiliate.

You sound like you are committed to the cause. I look forward to watching the growth in Canada.

[ryfralic]

It would be great to get a Canadian 100% RAW Div going, it would probably be closer for me to travel then a most other meets, as I'm in northern MN.

Good Luck to you,

[lapadat]

I am in for helping bring the federation to Canada.

I was at the Canadian Drug Free meet. it was small, but their worlds is very large, and their federation has many nations.

Where you there?

I will PM you my info and we can discuss working on bringing RAW up to Canada.

[plague1960]

This is the problem. I know Adam, he not only wears gear for equipped competitions but he uses gear too. That's what makes it hard for people who do not juice is people who say they don't, preach about all the wrongdoings of those who do, then goto the bathroom and stick a needle in their glute.

By looking at the numbers of alot of the lifts in this organization, there are several juicers here as well.

[raw123]

I recently spoke to Paul Bossi regarding 100% RAW sanction events in Canada, perhaps even a Canadian Nationals. I strongly urge anyone with interested in holding a sanctioned event with us to contact Paul Bossi, and myself, to begin arranging things.

Plague1960, in regards to your comments regarding lifters in this Federation not being drug free. 100% RAW uses the same drug-testing procedures found in any other drug-tested federation. It is possible that some lifters “slip through the cracks” … but this is a very small number. If you are questioning particular “outstanding lifters”, these are the people drug tested first—I know because I have tested many of them myself. Also, although our organization was founded to promote and support ‘Raw’ Powerlifting, none of us are here to discriminate against those who use ‘Assisted gear’. I know of several active members who lift both ‘raw’ and ‘equipped’.

-Hunter M. Claypatch
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By just looking at numbers with out knowing, meeting, or seeing the members is quite a BOLD statement. Please by all means, I deplore you, let us know who these members are? I'm sure by your wisdom this task will be quite easy. My belief is. It is easier for some lifters to accuse others than it is to do the dedicated work it takes to become these freakish lifters. Tell me in all your wisdom.
If a lifter is 49 at BW of 216 and has film proof of hitting 500 on the bench on several occasions and holds just about all Federation World records in his class. Would you say he has to be a juicer?

[plague1960]

I don't know why you are being such a dick really, maybe you are feeling guilty or something.

I have won 2 national championships and 1 world medal, using equipment, not juice. have I juiced in the past? yep, but never even close to while competing.

It is extremely difficult to win when women who weigh ~140 pounds are lifting as much as me at 250#, and have a bigger beard than me....but hey, at least they are open and honest about juicing and don't enter a raw drug free competition and claim drug free status. I don't have a problem with anyone doing it, I just don't care....until it comes to "drug tested" competitions. If you are drug free, then compete in drug free. If you are juiced, then compete in org's that do not test....there is nothing wrong with that.

So oh holy great one, a guy at 216 doing a 500# bench is very suspect, yes. Said lifter may have done the bench just fine. The technical part of the lift and white lights are not in question. One of the lifters in our group, weighs 180, but the best bencher I have ever seen, juices of course, but hey whatever he admits it so who cares. Even still, to bench what he does even juiced is very very good. Even he only benches 405 raw. So for you to tell me a guy 49 yo at 216 is benching 500 raw, yes it is very very hard to believe.

I knew another guy, weighed same as me, he was definitely not juicing, and he is not benching 500# raw. He also holds several bench records. He is benching over 500 with a singl ply of course.

If it is indeed true, then that is an awesome feat. The sad part is, nobody knows what goes on behind close doors so nobody will ever know and the records will be written.

Anyway, bench is not important, squatting is so why talk about it.

The bottom line is there are definitely people in every single organization on the planet, tested or not, that are juicing. To deny this is dellusional.

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Dec 9, 2009 22:15:56 GMT -5 plague1960 said:

So oh holy great one, a guy at 216 doing a 500# bench is very suspect, yes. Said lifter may have done the bench just fine. The technical part of the lift and white lights are not in question. One of the lifters in our group, weighs 180, but the best bencher I have ever seen, juices of course, but hey whatever he admits it so who cares. Even still, to bench what he does even juiced is very very good. Even he only benches 405 raw. So for you to tell me a guy 49 yo at 216 is benching 500 raw, yes it is very very hard to believe.

I knew another guy, weighed same as me, he was definitely not juicing, and he is not benching 500# raw. He also holds several bench records. He is benching over 500 with a singl ply of course.

If it is indeed true, then that is an awesome feat. The sad part is, nobody knows what goes on behind close doors so nobody will ever know and the records will be written.

Anyway, bench is not important, squatting is so why talk about it.

The bottom line is there are definitely people in every single organization on the planet, tested or not, that are juicing. To deny this is dellusional.

First. You have only posted twice on this forum under your present name plague1960. Both times they have been filled with spite and finger pointing. With no support to your argument except your own thoughts. No facts, mostly guesses. Maybe its a relapse of your past usage of juice. Is there any thing positive you can add to this forum?
As for being the Holy one. No sir not me. The Holy one is above in his Kingdom and the earthly Holy one is in Rome. So please refrain from further comments of me being the Holy one.
The 216 lb 49 year old of I speak of has Never touched an illegal enhancing or legal enhancing drug in his life time. He has trouble remembering to take his one a day vitamin. The only supplement he takes besides vitamins is power bars. 1$ @ Jewel food stores. No whey or creatine or any other powder, drink or other variances of aid. Sorry, he does take Tribustol 8 weeks on 8 off. He is just dedicated and he trains extremely smart. If he was 15 years younger I feel he would have given Rock Lewis a run for his money. As for him being tested. As Paul Bossi says. He is most likely the most tested lifter in the Federation. So it may be safe to say . He don't juice!

You state that a lifter you know definitely does not juice but accuse or feel strongly that others you do not know, do in fact juice. AND THEN! You go on to say "The sad part is, nobody knows what goes on behind close doors so nobody will ever know and the records will be written".
So if nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors, how can you state as a fact that this so called lifter does not juice?
Sorry but I find it hard to take any thing you say (write) as credible. Counter-diction is not a strong argument.

Sorry, nobody asks how much do you squat. The lead question will always and has always been. "How much do you bench"?
BENCH is KING! Always has been always will be. Deal with it.

One accurate statement you did make. Yes people do slip through the cracks. Just not as often in 100% RAW Federation. If you set a record, you will be tested. PERIOD!

[dbunch]

Adam, please keep us informed on how the Canadian 100 Raw is going. I would love to be able to say I competed international and Canada is as about international as I’m could get.
Thanks

[Deleted]

Adam,
I too am with dbunch. I would love to lift in a true international meet. Some of you seem to be quit serious about true Raw lifting up there in the great white North ;D Please keep us positively posted.

[adamprice88]

To Plague 1960.

You say you know me, so I'm very interested to know what your real name is. The reason I would like to know who you are is because anyone who knows me, TRULY KNOWS ME, would know that I do NOT take steroids. My real name and email address are on here for everyone to see, so please do me the favor of publishing yours so that we might have this "chat" face to face.

Oh, and do you want to know the reason WHY I don't take steroids? Read the following and see.

www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/city/story.html?id=d4754860-b3a6-48ff-a002-409475f48c72

After what my body has been through, do you think I'd want to add any more damage to it?

Look, I don't care what anyone puts in their bodies. I really don't. It's up to the individual to decide and that's what the different federations are for. There's a place for everyone in this sport, and you can go where you like and lift how you want. Just stay out of the feds that test if you are using. It's not fair to those of use who choose not to partake.

On to the Western Canadian Nationals. I am still preparing to have this meet, although I do not know when or where. I was waiting until after Christmas to get the planning going full scale, so be patient and I'll let everyone know when and where as soon as I can. I'm the Head Coach for Special Olympics Powerlifting in Alberta, and I want them to have a meet as well in the summer. Seeing as 100%RAW has Special Olympian Records, my thoughts were to get the venue, and have a two day event. Day 1, for Special Olympians, Day 2 for the other competitors. Saves me having to set up and tear down two venues. I will keep you posted on my progress.

Please, PLEASE Plague1960 send me your name. You want to insult me? Do it to my face, not anonymously on a public forum. I'll meet you anywhere and give you the chance to accuse me while looking me in the eyes.

[Deleted]

Adam, a true hero's story. My family's prayers accompany you in your trials. Keep pushing. Great work with the Special Olympics. Sounds like a great weekend for all to participate.
As for plague1960 , don't sweat him. Sounds like jealousy to me. If you can lift more than him. YOU HAVE TO BE ON ROIDS!!!!!!!!!

GOD Bless

[adamprice88]

Thanks Blackstone

I plan on attending the next RAW World Championships, wherever they may be. I just took a look at the event schedule and it doesn't seem to be posted yet. Any ideas where it'll be next year?