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Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #1 on May 1, 2009, 8:15pm »
Be aware that when you order tibustol, you are signing up to have it delivered and to be charged for it once per month. While I think the product has some merit, I do not support that method of sales.
I used it for one month and upon realizing it was an automaitc repeating order, cancelled.
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Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #2 on May 4, 2009, 9:07am »
Is the Anadrol mentioned the illegal (Schedule III) substance Oxymethone?
Meanwhile, I’m confused about Tribustol. It is less expensive than the banned and illegal prescription drug Oxymethone, but it ain’t cheap, at about $65 per month.
The Tribustol website says that it has a unique blend of ingredients because “Pinnicle Sports was able to break the "code" of the Eastern techniques”.
But because the FDA requires the contents of the product to be listed on labels, we all can now read the exact ingredients. My question is - how difficult would it be to put the stuff together yourself and save a significant amount of money? The components can’t be very expensive judging from a comparison of Tribustol and a generic Walmart “Equate” Complete Multivitamin. (Unit of comparison measure is % DV.)
For what it’s worth, if anything, Equate also contains these additional ingredients (with DV percentages): D (100), K (31), Niacin (100), Biotin (10), Pantothenic Acid (100) Calcium (20), Iron (100), Phosphorus (11), Iodine (100), Magnesium (25), Zinc (73), Copper (45), Manganese (115), Molybdenum (60), Chloride (2), and Potassium (2). Plus these substances for which no DV has been established: Boron, Nickel, Silicon, Tin, Venadium, Lutein, and Lycopene.
On the other hand, Tribustol does include 45 mg of “Tribulus Fruit Extract (40% saponins), which may be an important and hard to replicate ingredient.
Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #3 on May 7, 2009, 3:52pm »
Rich, this is Ramsey Rodriguez with the Tribustol product. Cant but reply to your comparison of my product to a 'WalMart' vitamin product. I guess you could say you struck a nerve. I understand just by glancing at the label it does not seem like a impressive formula. But if you look at the details it is different and expensive quality of nutrients. The Tribulus extract is the hightest available on the market, the potassium used DOES not exist on the commercial commodity market place. It literally has to be made/created by only 2 labs in the country (this takes more work/time). The B12 used (methylcobalamin)is also expensive form. This form is 3 times the quality and cost of commercial cynocobalamin. The other B vitamins are in direct ratio's that your cells perfer them to be (as theorized By Dr. Jeffery Bland). The folic acid content is high and for important reasons. Finally, this product is being applied for a Patent and this cost a lot of money!
Rest assured, this product has technology, integrity and proven results.
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Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #4 on May 11, 2009, 10:15am »
Well, Ramsey, I have to tell you that all this confuses me. That’s not surprising, because I’m not a scientist and I didn’t even do well in high school chemistry. It’s probably beyond my grasp, but I’d be curious to know how one vitamin B12 can be better than another, regardless of where it came from. Even I can understand that there are differences in foods and supplements on a higher level, but when you get down to (what I’m only guessing is) the molecular level, it would seem logical that B12 is B12.
I have no idea what aspect of Tribustol might be patentable, and I have no doubt that the patent process is expensive, but I can't afford to pay for that.
Even if Tribustol does have the perfect ratio of vitamin B forms for every or most human beings - at all extremes of physical condition and dietary habits - my question remains whether you can mix your own. The Walmart multivitamin was just a simple example that the basic ingredients are very inexpensive. There are many, many vitamin B complexes on the market from which to select the proper ratios.
Your potassium must be pretty good, since the amount is only 1% of the recommended daily amount.
By the way, does Tribustol do anything to promote the presence of the chemical homotranscobalamin II, which carries vitamin B12 into the cells?
Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #6 on May 14, 2009, 2:18pm »
Rich,
You made some interesting points. B12 is not just B12, just like calcium carbonate is not the same as calcium citrate. Another example ascorbic acid is not the same ascorbic ascorbates.
As for Dr. Bland he is a good chemist. I didnt' buy his weightloss products. But he is a good chemist.
For not being a chemist major you asked a hard question-Homotranscobalamin being a carrier to B12 seems to be elevated with the presence of B12 since it is essential to B12 utilization. Most catalist work this way.
For those willing to buy Tribustol, i dont think one will find a "Better Value" product.
Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #8 on May 15, 2009, 5:21pm »
Tribustol,
I'm in the Air Force Reserves and I need to know for sure if TRIBUSTOL contains any substances that might lead to a false positive on a drug test. Can you guarantee this?
Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #10 on May 18, 2009, 4:20pm »
Hey Rich, This is Lance. I met you at the single lift world championships in NOrfolk, VA last November. (YOu even took a couple of pictures for me) I was wondering, since I am about to use your product for the first time, if I should stop taking the creatine that I normally take....since Tribustol includes creatine in it. Or should I continue to take what I take and just add the Tribustol? THanks for your input and I look forward to seeing and telling you about the results of the meet I'll be in after this two month cycle. Take care!
Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #11 on May 19, 2009, 3:41am »
Hello, I have been checking out website for a while, however this is my first post. I have a question about Tribustol. I have been taking it for 2 weeks now and have not seen the results talked about here.I weigh around 300 and have been taking 4 pills in the morning and 4 at night. My bench went down from 425 to barely a double with 365, and my last three workout have felt terrible- no strength or endurance. I have not changed my diet or workouts since I started taking it. My question is did anyone taking it need to up their calories or do anything else with diet, or have similar problems? I am trying to at least maintain weight for the 308's in Vegas. I still have 2 bottles left and don't want to open them if it just doesn't work for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hello, I have been checking out website for a while, however this is my first post. I have a question about Tribustol. I have been taking it for 2 weeks now and have not seen the results talked about here.I weigh around 300 and have been taking 4 pills in the morning and 4 at night. My bench went down from 425 to barely a double with 365, and my last three workout have felt terrible- no strength or endurance. I have not changed my diet or workouts since I started taking it. My question is did anyone taking it need to up their calories or do anything else with diet, or have similar problems? I am trying to at least maintain weight for the 308's in Vegas. I still have 2 bottles left and don't want to open them if it just doesn't work for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
First off let me tell you. I am not scolding you. The thing is. Your not taking them properly. Re-read the directions. If you are at a BW of 300lbs you need to increase your intake by 2. Figure 3 tablets per 100 lbs 3 times a day.My BW is 220. I take 2 in the morning right after my first meal. Remember take them on a full stomach. 2 in the mid-day. 2 right after a work out if it is in the evening. My after work out dose is done with a protein bar. I cant eat after a work out. So I get a slow feed and a fast feed recovery following a work out. How about this for you. 3-2-3. One of the daily cycles would be a 3 tablet. That would be after a workout. If its a A.M. work out. 3-2-3. If its a Mid-day work out. 2-3-3. If its a evening work out. 3-2-3.
Give this formula a try. Also contact Tribustol. Ask them if you should continue to use there product after the end of one bottle. Tribustol is guaranteed or your money back.
So tell me Blackstone, do you take creatine in another form along with tribustol or just tribustol by itself.
I have posted this before. But knowing how things get buried, I'll state it again. The only things I take is Vitamin D, One a day for men, and calcium. Other than that. I don't hold to much trust in all that stuff. I never did get much out of them except bloating. Except maybe a protein bar before a Tribustol dose following a work out.
I hope this helps. Have you taken the product? If so. When did you start and hows it working for you.
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Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #17 on May 24, 2009, 10:41am »
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Re: need to be stronger fast! « Reply #19 on Jun 2, 2009, 9:18am »
Not to beat a dead horse, but a couple of minor points here.
Lance, I (Rich) was not at the meet you mentioned. From your comments, it appears that you may have met Ramsey. Where did you get the idea that Tribustol contains creatine? According to the label, there is none. If you read the label, which Ramsey has described as unimpressive, it is nothing but a few vitamins and some mysterious fruit extract which is not listed as an active ingredient.
deo01, Vitamins are not banned substances. Watch out for that miraculous "Tribulus Fruit Extract (40% saponins)¨ though.
Tribustol, you say that "B12 is not just B12, just like calcium carbonate is not the same as calcium citrate". That is, to say the least, faulty logic, similar to saying that "1 is not just 1, just like 2 is not 3". (The second example you gave was that ascorbic acid is not the same ascorbic ascorbates, so that's like adding that 4 is not 5.) OK, so I have learned that B12 is not B12, but is methylcobalamin methylcobalamin? This form of B12 that you tout as expensive ("The B12 used (methylcobalamin) is also [an] expensive form") can be purchased for almost nothing, e.g., at http://www.herbspro.com/shop/productdeta....m_medium=HPFeed They charge $7.39 for 100 servings, each of which contains 16,666% of the DV, compared to the 250% in Tribustol. So this brings me back full circle to my original question. If the only thing unique about Tribustol is that the "B vitamins are in direct ratio's [sic] that your cells perfer [sic] them to be (as theorized By Dr. Jeffery [sic] Bland)" then why can't I mix my own at a small fraction of the cost? By law, doesn't your label reveal the exact ratios? BTW, can you seriously claim that this one specific mix is perfect every person? Doesn't the intake of these ingredients from other sources play a role in what an individual needs?
Dr. Jeffrey Bland might be a chemist, but the QUACK WATCH website makes him also look like a con artist ala a snake oil salesman. You might reread this and look at the magnitude of the charges and fines imposed against him: http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/bland.html In addition to the weight loss claims that the FTC fined him for, there were several other potentially more serious ones, including these: "In addition, their UltraClear dietary program had been falsely claimed to reduce the incidence and severity of symptoms associated with gastrointestinal problems, inflammatory or immunologic problems, fatigue, food allergies, mercury exposure, kidney disorders, and rheumatoid arthritis." Have any reputable doctors or chemists recommended or endorsed the product?
Meanwhile, several postings seem to have disappeared from this thread. But who notices?
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