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« Thread Started on Apr 6, 2006, 4:47pm » | |
Great to see the numbers posted. Looks like a lot of thought went into them. The bar has been set high. I love a challenge. Paul, will 100% RAW have classification patches available to lifters who qualify?
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« Reply #1 on Apr 6, 2006, 4:55pm » | |
I just looked at the totals also. Are these high enough to be considered elite? Not trying to toot my own horn, or cause controversy, but I very seldom squat or bench and would be very close if not over the elite total in the 275's. Just giving my opinion, not trying to cause problems. Hope everyone is having a good day.
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« Reply #2 on Apr 6, 2006, 5:00pm » | |
These numbers are 96% of what the AAU considers to be elite for their equipped lifters. If you can hit these numbers on the platform, you are an extraordinary lifter. I can find only a handfull of totals listed in the last several years for 100% RAW that would qualify as elite.
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« Reply #3 on Apr 6, 2006, 5:38pm » | |
I am looking forward to getting into one of the meets this year. Hopefully the one they have in June or July in IL.
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« Reply #4 on Apr 6, 2006, 7:26pm » | |
How about the history saying those"guys and gals from North Kaki lack (NC)"!
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« Reply #5 on Apr 6, 2006, 8:00pm » | |
Hey Bud, how far are you guys from Joliet? Saturdays we have a ton of guys all working out together. One guy who has benched in the 700's and a couple who have gone in the 600's. I know these are shirted numbers, but these guys are strong and great to work out with.
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« Reply #6 on Apr 6, 2006, 9:56pm » | |
Hey Bill this is David. I have e-mailed with you and Bud about the World gym in Joliet. If that is not a go, there is the Powerhouse that just got bought out by Gold's. You could always try hosting it at a hotel banquet hall room. I know that is what Jim Rouse does alot with his Federation. Anything I can do to help, feel free to let me know.
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« Reply #7 on Apr 7, 2006, 12:40pm » | |
We are in the process of getting Elite Patches and maybe master patches also. We will be putting together a package plan for the lifters for the Elite & Master status. We will do a certificate and plaque and probably a shirt also. Within a month I will have that program set for the lifters who qualify.
As far as the numbers too low, Just look at all the drug free RAW meets in any federation over the past 5 years in you will not find a hand full of Elite lifters in any 1 class.
Also Greg Stott from iXL Productions was hired to research and come up with these numbers and he is in the process of having them unified with AAU & ADAU. Those 2 organizations are reviewing them and like what they saw. Now we await their board to approve. I feel we have set the standard for the Elite status and I believe all others will join in so we have a unified set of RAW number for lifter status. No need to reinvent the wheel.
I hope you all like what has been done there has been much research by Greg Stott and his Team iXL Productions. Maybe you can drop him a line and say hello and thank you. His profile and interview are on our front page. He has a very nice interview done by Body Building .com
It is nice to see all the interest in the RAW Classifications, keep up the posting gentle and ladies.
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« Reply #8 on Apr 7, 2006, 3:11pm » | |
Paul,
Thanks for the kind words.
It is official...The RAW Classification Standards
have been endorsed by both 100% RAW & AAU.
More Federations to come.
To read the Press Release on this
subject simply click on the link below.
A point to remember when reviewing the Classification
Standards...they are just that standards, to help you
the RAW Lifter measure your Powerlifting development.
Become Elite first...then set your sites on setting a
new World Record...that's when the sky is the limit!
www.RAWClassificationStandards.info
Always remember...There are No Limits Drug Free!
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« Reply #9 on Apr 7, 2006, 7:18pm » | |
awesome now i can see where i stand raw now i have to bring it to the platform. Thanks guys.
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« Reply #10 on Apr 7, 2006, 7:18pm » | |
Greg, thank you for all your time and effort tracking this and creating the classifications. Great job with the unification - RAW is finally being recognized. I train for the personal challenge. Competing is just a fringe benefit of training for me. But it is nice to be able to see where I stack up with these numbers.
Paul, thank you for the platform to compete raw. You are a tremendous assett to the sport. The recognition we are now receiving is due, in large part, to your personal efforts.
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« Reply #11 on Apr 9, 2006, 4:21pm » | |
I know Bud had a problem trying to get a meet at World Gym Joliet. The problem was that there were two owners. You should give them another try. There is just one owner now. He seems to be very supportive of powerlifters and strongman type things. He lets me leave some of my equipment in the back and I know other people leave equipment there also.
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« Reply #12 on Apr 9, 2006, 4:34pm » | |
I would presume that the elite totals are future generated numbers to be hit--meaning that once more members get involved and learn how to progress they will hit those elite numbers; can anyone give me numbers on how many individuals have hit elite and also won a National and World title? I'm betting many have won below an elite total that is know set. I will bet not many people will hit elite--not saying that's a good thing or bad thing. Just my 2cents.
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 hmmmm. I will believe it when I see it in a competition.
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« Reply #13 on Apr 9, 2006, 7:04pm » | |
I will be competing in some of these contests, don't you worry! Believe it when I see it....sheesh! Where is the love in this sport...... 
In all seriousness, I was talking to some of my friends at the gym today and they said that those were good numbers to shoot for for raw and drug tested. I am planning on getting in on the late June/early July meet that they will be having in IL. Anyone looking for a place to train at, World Gym on Saturday(usually between 11-2ish) is a great place to be. You are more than welcome to come out and try some of the strongman stuff we have there also.
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« Reply #14 on Apr 10, 2006, 2:56pm » | |
Sure, the address is 2012 west jefferson street Joliet IL. Like i said, Saturdays are great there. Lots of good lifters and we all have a good time helping each other out and goofing around. The owners name is Scott Thulin.
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« Reply #15 on Apr 10, 2006, 3:47pm » | |
A Webster's definition of Elite is:
" A powerful minority group"
That sums it up pretty well I think.
People should not worry how many lifters are in this minority group.
They should simply use the now "Unified Classification Standards"
to measure their own performance & development in our sport!
Yes Unified: 100% RAW, AAU & the ADAU.
If you're a Class IV this year...keep working at it.
In a few years you may be a Master or Class I.
In '97...I Totaled 1480 lbs. competing as a 242 pounder
that would have ranked me as a Class I lifter in the AAU.
In '00... I Totaled 1750 lbs in the 275 lb. class, ranking me Elite.
If the most you ever Totaled = Class I...
At least you competed and have first hand
knowledge of what it takes to lift Elite.
The Elite group will always be small that's
why it's called Elite...and not "Everybody". 
Always Remember that "Less is More"
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« Reply #16 on Apr 10, 2006, 9:43pm » | |
Actually, a good chunk of us will not be there this Saturday. There is a powerlifitng meet out in Bradley IL. A group of lifters from World will be there doing it. Then the following Saturday is Chicago's strongest man contest. There will be a couple of guys still at World training. You should go check the gym out, I think you would like it.
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« Reply #17 on Apr 15, 2006, 8:34am » | |
I'm sorry for the lack of love--it's just you hear about so many posters claiming this lift and that lift and behold a meet comes along like the one in Palatine and all these lifters are nowhere to be found--or have some excuse. Good luck in your meets to come.
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« Reply #18 on Apr 16, 2006, 2:40am » | |
It's like anything else in life and an old adage that I have learned, in most cases, is very true.
"Those that talk the most have the least to talk about". If you are an experienced and advanced lifter apply an equal amount of humility. If you are new to the iron game let hard work and integrity dictate your training and words. Regardless of lifting ability and experience we all need to apply honor, humility and integrity in our words and lives. No soapbox here. Just my views on the subject.
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« Reply #19 on Apr 16, 2006, 1:01pm » | |
IRONMASTER,
I agree with Bill, about the Marines teaching us, it sounds alot like "JJ DID TIE BUCKLE" if you remember that from the corps. (can you still remember what each one stands for?) 
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